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  • Raymond Stevens Scam. Take care and let others take care

    Message from the administrators of this web site, and the administrators of minilabworld.com:

    A couple of days ago we received an e-mail from a Minilabworld member, describing how he was cheated by a scammer in the UK: Raymond Stevens Plant & Marine Services LTD.

    Our Forum has warnings about this company, and directions on how to avoid to be scammed, and despite our efforts to keep everybody informed we keep on receiving cases of people being scammed…

    This member has allowed us to publish all the documentation about this case.
    What follows is the copy of the correspondence between our member (Mr. X), and the scammer/s. The first part is the correspondence of Mr. X with us.

    (Mr. X never asked us to hide his name, we just think it is irrelevant to the scam. If you are a future buyer, substitute the X with your name and see how you feel…)


    Attachment Attachment



    (E-mail 1: Mr. X to Minilabworld)

    Dear Sir,
    I want to caution you from the cheaters and scam company called
    Raymond Stevens Plant & Marine Services LTD located in UK.
    They claimed that they are seller of minilabs and soya oil...!!!!
    They cheated me with $12,250, and not send me any machine. If you need the evidence I have every document. Take care and let others take care!
    They use these fake emails:

    raymondstevensltd@hotmail.com
    sales@raymondstevens.com
    info@raymondstevens.com
    accounts@raymondstevens.com
    export_jauwoloh@raymondstevens.com
    purchase@raymondstevens.com

    Please, take care and let others take care ..!
    Mr. X

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    Dear Mr. X,

    We have warned everybody about this company in our Forum, please, read.

    http://photolabhelp.com/showthread.p...aymond+Stevens

    Please, send us all the documentation so we can lift a warning flag for everybody to see...

    Did you contact this company through our web site?

    Thank you.

    Regards,

    Karen
    Team Minilabworld

    -----------------------------------------

    Dear Mr. Karen and Team Minilabworld,

    Have a nice day,
    I contact this company via another website, I read your warning but after I made the payment. Sorry for that.
    I will forward all the emails from them.
    They sent me their company foundation documents.
    They use about five e-mails.
    Thanks
    X, minilabworld member

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    Dear Mr. X,

    We are sorry to hear what happened to you. As I read, you are now aware of who this people are.
    It will be very difficult to get your money. We have seen this happening several time in our 12 year history and, as far as we know, the result has always been negative.

    We are doing the best we can to avoid this to happen, by posting sticky warnings in our Forum, and by letting people know about this problem.
    Please, let us know if you think we can help you in any other way.

    The documents you sent to us can be very helpful to stop these crocks, are we allowed to publish them in our Forum, as an example of how crocks operate?

    Regards,

    Karen
    Team Minilabworld

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    Dear Mr. Karen and Team Minilabworld,
    Nice day,
    Thank you very much for your very kind email.
    Yes you can publish, to let other people take care from this company and from other frauds who work in the same way.
    If you need any other document about this issue, as bank swift paper, I am ready.
    You can publish a black list of the fraud companies on the minilabworld forum.
    Let our slogan be: Take care and let others take care
    Thank you
    Best Regards
    Mr. X

    ------------------------------------

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you, this will help others…

    Team Minilabworld




    The Scam


    Thu, 27 Oct 2011

    (Mr. X sent a message using the contact form at
    http://www.marine-world.com/brokers/1998.html.)

    Hi Sir ,
    Please contact me for more information about your used 7 reconditioned minilabs .Fuji & Noritsu .
    I want these minilabs to be shipped to Ashdod -Israel.
    Thanks
    Mr. X

    --------------------------------


    Fri, 28 Oct 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    We have the following available:

    Fujifilm Frontier 340, 350 and 370
    Noritsu QSS-3201 SD, QSS 3001, QSS 3011, QSS 3201, QSS 3202, QSS 3212 and QSS 3202 PRO

    Let me know which of them is of interest to you?

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager
    Raymond Stevens Plant & Marine Services Ltd.
    78 Newlands Gardens, Workington,
    Cumbria CA14 3PG
    T: +44(0)7700 030 835
    F: +44(0)1900 200 179

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    Sun, 30 Oct 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton Lord,
    Have a nice day ,
    We are a reseller company of digital minilabs .
    I am interested now in Fuji frontier 370 and Noritsu QSS3202 pro .
    Pls, send me the photos of these machines ,and information about them
    Thanks
    Yours
    Mr. X

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    Mon, 31 Oct 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Kindly find attached, photos of the said machines and below, detailed information regarding both.

    NORITSU 3202 PRO
    Condition: As-Is condition
    Version: English
    Production date: 2004
    Counter prints: 1,536,493 prints.
    Chemistry – RA-4

    Accessories:
    Paper Processor model: PP-1213; Control Station CS-1/Laser Printer Processor model: LPP-750; 6 paper magazines, A4 scanner, Multi memory Card Reader, CD writer and auto 135/APS mask, 2- line CVP unit, dark bag, Order Sorter, Colorimeter unit, ZIP drive Unit, CD-R/RW Drive unit.

    Software: Multi-frame creation, card calendar creation, template creation, Red-eye reduction, scratch removal from base and emulsion layer.

    Price - 19,000/unit, FOB Felixstowe Port, UK.
    ===================
    FUJIFILM FRONTIER 370
    Condition: Refurbished
    Version: English
    Production date: 2002
    Counter prints: 895,489 prints.
    Chemistry – RA-4

    Accessories:
    5 paper magazines, NC 240Y mask, NC 135Y mask, Film Receiving Box, Calibrator, Diffusion Box 135 & 240, Paper Sorter, PC for FDI, IO Box, External CDR & English Manual, 15" Color Monitor.

    Software: Fuji version 6.6 for Scanner and Fuji version 7.0 for Printer Processor including, standard Index Print sizes, Fuji Index Print Logo, Red Eye Soft Cross Removal. Merlin 1.5 software supplied on scanner.

    Price - 7,300/unit, FOB Felixstowe Port, UK.

    Should you also be interested, there is a second set of Fujifilm Frontier 370 available.

    Let us have your feedback. Thank you.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager


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    Mon, 31 Oct 2011

    Dear Clinton ,
    Have a wonderful day ,
    For the refurbished fuji frontier 370 ,it is ok .
    Pls, send me the P/I .
    Consignee details as following :
    xxxxxxxx

    Pls, send me the shipping cost to Ashdod -Israel.CIF terms.
    For the QSS 3202 pro ,I will contact you soon about it .
    Hope we will have good cooperation together .
    Yours
    Mr. X

    -------------------------------------------------

    Tue, 1 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Find in attachment the Pro-forma Invoice for Fuji Frontier 370.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager

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    Tue, 1 Nov 2011

    Dear Clinton Lord,
    Have A nice day ,
    ok for the proforma invoice ,
    Pls consider the following :
    - you should write the vat no. of Intl Ports Services co. .Vat no :xxxxx
    - my customs broker asked for Euro-1 certificate .can you introduce it ?
    - Pls, send me your bank account ..can I transmit in USD if ok ,what is the rate ?
    I will transmit on Thursday.
    Hope this will be a start of a good business relation.
    Thanks
    Best Regards
    Mr. X


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    Wed, 2 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you for your return e-mail.

    There is no Euro -1 certificate but, you can get a reduced invoice value. What total invoice value do you advice we issue? Documents that will accompany your goods include Certificate of Origin (available for only one invoice), Commercial invoice and packing list.

    Attached herewith is the amended Proforma in GBP. Yes, you can transmit in USD; total invoice value in USD will be 12,246 USD (Twelve thousand, two hundred and forty six US dollars) (@ 1 GBP = 1.60117 USD). Also attached is our bank account were funds should be transmitted.

    Yes, the second Frontier 370 has PC for FDI software, but the Noritsu 3212 only has standard dual magazine system built-in. The prices for both Frontier 370 are our best, however we can only deduct a maximum of 900 GBP from any of the already offered QSS 32-series. Do bear with us!

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager



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    Thu, 3 Nov 2011

    Dear Clinton ,
    Have a nice day ,
    Kindly find the attached ,
    Today I transmitted USD 12250
    Attached is a copy of the bank swift slip..
    I hope you will get the fund soon ,Pls arrange for shipping ,when you get the payment you can ship .
    For the Qss machines ,i do hope we will reach a good deal soon .
    I will inform you with the reduced value of the invoice.
    Best Regards
    Mr. X

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    Thu, 3 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you for the updates.

    We shall inform you on confirmation of funds in due course, and subsequently proceed with shipping, as we await your final decision regarding the QSS machines and reduced invoice value.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager

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    Fri, 4 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton Lord,
    Nice day ,
    Do you get refurbished or used Didital SLR cameras ?
    Do you have chemicals for Fuji CP-48 ?
    Best Wishes
    Mr. X

    -------------------------------

    Fri, 4 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you for your email.

    Unfortunately, we do not deal on Digital cameras and Chemicals.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager
    Raymond Stevens Plant & Marine Services Ltd.
    78 Newlands Gardens, Workington,
    Cumbria CA14 3PG
    T: +44(0)7700 030 835
    F: +44(0)1900 200 179


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    Fri, 4 Nov 2011

    Dear Clinton Lord ,
    Have a nice day ,
    Pls, send me a copy of all documents , commercial invoice ,Packing list ,B/L , C/O .
    Pls,send me some photos when loading the printer .
    It is our first time cooperation ,hope we will have a continuous ,successful business .
    Best Wishes
    Mr. X

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    Sat, 5 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    Kindly find attached. I will send you photos and all import/export documents next week as soon as we confirm your payment and about to dispatch goods.

    We will endeavor to serve you better in due course.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Promotion Manager


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    Mon, 7 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton Lord ,
    Nice day ,
    Are a competitor of many other companies working in minilab supplies ?
    I said so cos I read some bad comments about your company on Minilab Forum .
    who are you really ??
    anyway ,I sent you the money ,i do hope I will get the machine.
    pls, advice soon
    Mr. X

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    Tue, 8 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you for the sms. I look forward to getting a confirmation from Accounts Dept. before the end of today. And once I do, I will revert to you with details.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager


    ------------------------------------------------

    Tue, 8 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton ,
    Nice day ,
    Thank you for concern ,I appreciate you reply me via email not SMS about the payment .
    Hope we will have a real business relation, Hope the future will be better ..!
    anyway ,I am waiting your confirmation of receiving the payment .
    Thanks
    Best Regards
    Mr. X


    ---------------------------------

    Tue, 8 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr.X,

    Sorry, We could not confirm payment today. What message did your bank give you regarding payment? Payment should have reached here by now, since it takes about 3 bank days for normal priority wire transfer.

    Let us hope for tomorrow then, but let me know the message from your bank. Thank you.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager


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    Tue, 8 Nov 2011

    Dear Clinton Lord,
    Have a nice day ,
    On Thursday 3-11-2011, I made three payments .One to UK to your export company -J.A.Uwoloh - account ,Two to china .
    my local bank send me a message informing me of the arrival of the three payments to all accounts .
    Both companies in china -Cotek & ZY -confirmed the arrival of the payments .
    one comapny from china -Cotek -send email to me ,while ZY send sms .
    Just your company didn't confirm the payment yet .
    Hope by tomorrow morning ,you will confirm receiving the payment .
    Thanks
    Best Regards
    Mr. X


    -------------------------------

    Wed, 9 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    We wish to confirm receipt of the payment. Delay was from the intermediate bank.

    The consignment will be packed and picked up on Friday; next sail date to the Mediterranean is on Saturday.

    I will keep you posted in due course and thank you for your patience.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager


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    Wed, 9 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton ,
    Have a nice day ,
    Thank you for informing me that you received the payment .
    Pls, take some photos for the machine when you pack it ,for my referance.
    for the documents ,commerical invoice ,Packing list ,C/O and Bill of lading ,insurance ,I want you send them to my customs broker address via DHL .I will send the address soon ....
    Thank you as well for you palience ..
    Thank you for your SMS .
    Best Regards
    Mr. X


    -----------------------------------------------------

    Thu, 10 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    I will; at you convenience forward the address of your customs broker. Thank you!

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager



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    Thu, 10 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. Clinton Lord ,
    Nice day ,
    Here is the DHL address of our customs broker :


    name : xxxx
    Add : xxxx
    Tel : xxxxx
    Fax : xxxx

    Pls,email me a copy of documents .

    Warm wishes
    Mr. X

    ----------------------------------------

    Fri, 11 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Thank you for the update.

    I will revert to you with copy of documents and photos of packing this evening or by tomorrow.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager


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    Sun, 13 Nov

    Dear Mr. Clinton ,
    Nice day
    Did you arrange the shippment of the machine ?
    Pls, keep me updated..!!
    Regards
    Mr. X


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    Tue, 15 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr. X,

    Machine has been shipped; we will send documents to your customs broker tomorrow and copy you.

    Thank you for your patience.

    Regards,

    Clinton Lord
    Sales Manager
    www.raymondstevens.com
    Raymond Stevens Plant & Marine Services Ltd.
    78 Newlands Gardens, Workington,
    Cumbria CA14 3PG
    T: +44(0)7700 030 835
    F: +44(0)1900 200 179

    ------------------------------------

    Sat, 19 Nov 2011

    Mr. Clinton ,

    I heard too much about your company ,but for my sorrow i didn't consider that cautions .You send me your company registration to convince me to make the payment .
    I trusted you for my deep sorrow .!
    In fact I feel with deep sorrow not because the payment ,but because I didn't take the cautions about you into consideration .

    Raymond-Stevens co :

    You seem to be more professional company in cheating customers from all the world .
    Anyway, I will not surrender and will always act to get my money back .

    These are your words, who will trust you more!


    = Kindly find attached. I will send you photos and all import/export documents next week as soon as we confirm your payment and about to dispatch goods.

    = We will endeavor to serve you better in due course.
    = Machine has been shipped; we will send documents to your customs broker tomorrow and copy you.

    = I will revert to you with copy of documents and photos of packing this evening or by tomorrow.



    = We wish to confirm receipt of the payment. Delay was from the intermediate bank.

    = The consignment will be packed and picked up on Friday; next sail date to the Mediterranean is on Saturday.
    = We will endeavor to serve you better in due course.

    Mr. X


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  • #2
    It is really sad to read it....

    Why not to sue them?
    UK is proud to name yourself as a country where THE LAW directs the society life.
    I hope you can find any relatives or good partners in this country to send them the paper as follows:

    ................................................
    Type the following letter on your company letterhead:
    LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION
    DATE
    To whom it may concern:

    We the undersigned, hereby authorize bla -bla-bla to act on our behalf in all manners relating to application for police, court etc. authorization, including signing of all documents relating to these matters.
    Any and all acts carried out by bla-bla-bla on our behalf shall have the same affect as acts of our own.

    This authorization is valid until further written notice from (YOUR COMPANY NAME).

    Sincerely,

    (Company counsel or company officer signature)
    .
    (Name and Title)
    ............................
    I guess they scam people because everyone who scammed thinks that this is useless to find and sue them.
    Be the first who will kick them.

    I would tear them twice even for 1 US$..

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    • #3
      Does anyone know about Raymond Stevens ? Please advice
      Jim

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